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Post by Dave on Apr 17, 2004 11:50:21 GMT -5
Iv had some really crappy luck with ph30 fram oil filters. this is twice iv had a PH30 filter that dosnt thread properly. Iv gone back to Motomaster filters, and they thread on just fine.. Infact just recently i got a PH30 filter that had fine metal shavings where the threads where cut...
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Post by Davotoo on Apr 17, 2004 12:52:59 GMT -5
Try a WIX 51839
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Post by Dave on Apr 17, 2004 13:06:53 GMT -5
hmm.. where in Ontario might they sell Wix? i think ill just use canadian tire TM* motormaster. same price.. never had a problem with them.. the thing that scares me is, frams quality seems to be shady this day and age, sure the media may be not as good compared to other filters, but when your finding metal shavings in their filters, and it wont even thread on (maybe thats a good thing or i wouldn't have known) (Fram 'just when you think your giving your engine the best' you could be sending it to it's death') i know its just a topic about filters.. but... there oil filters.. the heart of every engine *the oil*
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Post by Davotoo on Apr 17, 2004 18:20:10 GMT -5
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Post by Davotoo on Apr 17, 2004 18:24:26 GMT -5
I wish I could get Motomaster. Wix are about $7.50 US! The full flow is only $5 US..............
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Post by metromustang on May 20, 2004 0:22:01 GMT -5
What was it that told you PH30 was something you should install as a bypass filter? here are the filters im using on my truck. Oil filters ------------ Fram PH30 Fram PH2849A Air filter ----------- Fram CA3998 As is listed on my filter interchange, the threads are M20×1.5. The PH30 is intended for small block Chevys and has 13/16"-16 threads (this would equate to M20.64×1.59...nice try though!). See Fram PH30=Wix 51069: www.wixfilters.com/filterlookup/PartDetail.asp?Part=51069So the first time you put a PH30 on your truck, you probably pretty much killed the threads. Getting a Wix filter wouldn't have helped you much after that. It's a good thing you've already fixed your problem with an aftermarket bypass filter. Off-topic full-flow filter discussion: I will admit though that the full-flow filter I use is the Fram PH2849A/Wix 51347. It just seems that the specified PH2921 / 51324 is too fat and would be too close to the frame and oil pan. If it wasn't in danger of hitting something, it would at least be hard to get a hand on to remove it. Other than external size, the other differences for the PH2849A are that it has less filter area (I presume) and it has a lower interal bypass pressure. I hope neither of these is detrimental. Could there be other differences?
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Post by Davotoo on May 20, 2004 9:24:30 GMT -5
Hey Guys:
I have a really neat filter wrench that looks like a piece of square tubing 3/8 inch ID for standard 3/8 drive breaker bars or ratchets. It has a slot cut in one end and a piece of just seat belt that wind arround the filter and the square tubing. The harder you crank on it the better it grabs the filter. It fits all filters and has save me more than once with one of those over tightened filters. Got it at an auto parts store.
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Post by metromustang on May 29, 2004 20:28:48 GMT -5
By some miracle, I found a store that keeps a bypass filter on the shelf! I bought a Wix 51839 that was labeled as a NAPA 1839. The price is advertised $15.60 but you pay jobber price $8.79. I guess ~$9 isn't the end of the world since they last twice as long. Maybe since I bought this one, they will restock and keep one around.
Where do you guys go to beat this price? Does anybody use the Motorcraft? (that's what's on mine right now)
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Post by metromustang on May 31, 2004 19:00:34 GMT -5
More filter good news. Today I went to Advance Auto and they have the bypass filter (Purolator L10343) for $4 everyday. They don't keep it on the shelf but my store actually had one in the back in the PDQ section. The worst case would be ordering a couple of them by PDQ and having to come the next day and get them. I think I'll buy this Purolator one from now on and change it more frequently.
This Purolator is short and fat like the Motorcraft. (It doesn't meet the dimensions of the Wix/NAPA that's listed on my interchange list.)
The sealing surface is broad on the filter appendage (like from 75mm ID to over 100mm OD). While the ID of the Wix filter gasket is 78mm, the ID of the Purolator gasket is 94mm. So, while the outer dimensions and gaskets are very different, the both seem to fit.
I wonder why the Wix and Motorcraft appear so different.
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Post by Davotoo on May 31, 2004 20:50:16 GMT -5
Wow! $4 ;D The Stock filter was so fat I needed a special wrench to get it off. It covered the flange. It's pictured in outline on the front view pic of dave's rides on.(if you don't have the factory work shop book) community.webshots.com/user/dieseldavo
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Post by Davotoo on May 31, 2004 21:17:12 GMT -5
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Post by Davotoo on May 31, 2004 21:19:44 GMT -5
Sorry about the link.... You need to make an account here.......More spam
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Post by metromustang on May 31, 2004 23:24:29 GMT -5
The link works fine. That's one of the same places I look. The partsamerica stores where I live are called Advance Auto Parts. The shape of the BeckArnley is the same as that of the Purolator L10343 that I put on this afternoon. I don't have any wrenches though. Something's wrong if I can't get a filter off with my hands.
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Post by greyfoxx on Oct 25, 2004 15:03:26 GMT -5
Does everyone understand that these bypass oil filter are to fine filter the oil ? The stock filter that is so expensive I would expect to filter down to under 10 microns with no problems. A stock full flow oil filter installed will filter down under 30 microns and possible down to 15 microns . The whole idea was to keep your oil much cleaner that the regular setup. If you feel that the true bypass filter is too much money buy a premim synthetic media filter that will filter to ten microns and less.
I took off the the origional bypass and installed a frantz oil filter in it's place. This takes tolet paper and filters to around one micron.
cheers George
ps Hastings make a filter for thsi and it was around $10 cnd.
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