Automatic Trans Fluid in the fuel.

[Davotoo]

Hey am I the only one here thats adds a quart of ATF in the fuel every third time I fuel up??

[Dave]

not me... i herd of people adding kerosene.
but iv never used neither.. i just use Gunk
(brand name) diesel conditioner in the fuel till the temps
get warmer here +14'c (gets cold here still at nights)
my thinking is condensation in the fuel tank...

I don't know about the ATF in the fuel. but i belive
any additive thats oil based, won't hurt...
i think of it as a treat, kinda like adding too much oil
in a 2cycle engine, its also good for the extra lube, injector pump, cyl. walls, valve seats, etc....
never hurts.. you may lose a bit on the violtile side of the fuel (horse power generation) but these losses i think are so small you'd never notice...

Iv learned gas companys add kerosene to colder climates at their pumps.. these ratios i dont know...
be curious to find out though...


Dave

[Davotoo]

Ahh 2 strokes.... I ran SAABs for about 3 years when they had 3 cyl 2 stroke engines. Used to add a quart of 30w for every 5 gallons. In 4 stroke bikes a added the old snake oil of Thimble Drone model planes and dragsters...Caster oil. One of the few oils that a diesel won't burn or just about any other engine. About 2 Tbl sthingys per gallon. The only oil I know of that will lube an exhaust valve guide.

No really ATF will swell and soften rubber seals can clean sticky delivery valves on the pump. Ford made a really crappy pump (They have a better idea) on a tractor that almost demanded ATF as an extra lube.

K1 is not such a good fix for fuel jell since it has no lubrication and can cause wear of the pump.

[Dave]

haha, i remember when i was about 16-17
i had a 175 kawaski dirt bike, older single lung 2 stroke.
being a kid, i couldnt afford the oil with the fuel.
so for years i ran it with 10w-30 for oil in the gas.
sometimes even waste left over motor oil from oil changes kicking around the shop ;D

and the engine still ran for many years after.
although every month the plug had to be removed and
cleaned up. interesting enough the bike had two spark plugs. when one fouled up, you could pull the plug over to the other spark plug. (since why i was a miser)

[LoveLearn]

I would NOT add kerosene to any diesel's fuel. Clearances inside our expensive fuel injection pumps are very tight and fuel lubricity is all that prevents metal to metal contact. I do run Stanadyne Performance fuel additive. Critical SOB's I know who only believe what has been compellingly shown to work well say it works. Lots of diesel fuel additives lower the temperature at which wax formation begins. That's a necessary but not sufficient benefit. Minor marginal but consistent improvement in mpg by enough to pay for the cost of the additive made the case compelling to me. I've even experienced improvements in PowerStroke injectors which seemed ready for replacement/rebuilding from a few months of using Stanadyne diesel additive. Those are VERY EXPENSIVE failure-prone injectors, quite unlike those in these mazda diesels. I found the case price from the Florida supplier was good, but I didn't like the UPS charge. So I asked the nearest Stanadyne distributor if they'd match that easily confirmed price if I prepaid my order by Money Order. Answer was yes and my delivered price was excellent. You can probably duplicate that.

Other additives may be good, but I KNOW this stuff is.
John "LoveLearn"

[Mazdadieselsrule]

I use Howes diesel treat I get at the Peterbilt truck center near me . If truckers use it the stuff has to be good. It puts lubricity back into the fuel and if your fuel gels up Howes pays the tow! I have used ATF on occasion and agree it cant hurt. Speaking of injectors my 84 has a fuel knock at idle from one and also at high speed I can hear the combustion noise from premature injection. I would like to replace all 4 nozzles. I remember someone on here got a set ultra cheap. Anyone know who that was? John.

[DieselDavo]

Hi John:

The guy was me aka Davotoo and Davo.
I got a set from blue ridge diesel. They have a web site or at least had one. I got a set of nozzles and copper washers for less than 4 glowplugs. Had to send them some numbers off the injector nozzle holder.

www.blueridgediesel.com/

Don't forget your Mazda B2200 IS a Perkins 4-135!!!!
Perkins gave the manufacturing job to Toyo Kogyo who in turn sold it to Ford except they put the 4-154 oil pan and filter on it motor to fit their Ranger frame.

[Dieseldavo]

Oh BTW:
The new nozzels made the engine Crackle on all 4 which is a good thing. If a diesel is too quiet there is something wrong. (I had one leaky guy)

Knock on a cylinder is may be a bad glow plug also but mine and by brothers both had a knock on one cylinder around 35 mph (in 4 of course) from day one, even when warm.

The F#*kin fuel the EPA is pushing these days needs something and at a buck a quart ATF is better than watching an $800 pump go south. Don't you agree?

[Mazdadieseldrule]

Thanks Dave I will contact them. Is that the whole injector assy or just nozzles as I will have to send them out and get pressure tested. Mine has a slight knock on one at idle esp when cold then it comes in at highway speed when im at 65-70. From what ive always remembered about this particular diesel they are a very quiet engine as far as diesels go. Once your over 35 you shouldnt know your in a diesel. I remembered test driving a new B2000 gas before I bought the diesel and the gas engine was coarser revving than the diesel so these really shouldnt "bark" so to speak when they warm up. I just took mine on a 150 mile round trip last nite and had it to the floorboards the whole way and it loves it. My friend kept telling me he expected to hear it knocking when we got off the exit to the bottom of the ramp and let it idle but he was surprised at how quiet it idled after a hard run. They love it,keeps them clean. Perkins and Mazda have been working together since 1969. Before I bought my new 1983 B2200 I went to the library and researched all the new jap diesel trucks and drove each and settled on the Mazda when everyone told me to get a Toyota. The cylinder head is case hardened on these supposedly. I have a 1983 B2000 im stripping for parts if anyone needs body related stuff etc.John.

[Dieseldavo]

I got just the Nozzles and copper head washers.
I cleaned mine up, put in the same old shims and cranked them down on my bench in a vise with a 1/2 inch breaker bar and drove 100 miles to have them tested.
The guy said one was off by about 50 lbs but you would never notice any difference.