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Post by widetrack212 on Oct 28, 2014 18:44:39 GMT -5
No problem. I have a bunch of q's for you, but no time right now! I hope I didn't sound condescending last time. I wasn't sure of your diesel experience and it kind'a sounded like you were just going to throw some "go fast, blow it up" parts on your truck and then junk it after you destroyed it. Now it sounds like you have some diesel smarts! Cool! Good luck on the project. Keep us updated with pics and progress reports. Q's later....... You're fine, I didn't mean to come across like that at all. I hope it'll last! I mean it'd be nice to have performance, I want it to also be reliable. I'm just a farm kid that's been around truck/tractor pulling, racing and a few diesel performance "guru's" I'm not trying to sound like I know everything, which I don't and I'm willing to learn but I'm not clueless either. Heck the more questions the better, that's the point of a forum! Once the electrical in our shop is all re- wired there will be pictures and progress reports!
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Post by 83rangerguy on Oct 29, 2014 17:57:26 GMT -5
The one thing besides these engines eating valves.. whats really the weak point? Crank? Rods? Pistons? Heads? What is the failure point..? I read that a lot on here about the valve issue.....what's the deal with that?
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Post by \diesel danger ranger guest on Oct 30, 2014 8:53:18 GMT -5
My diesel smarts are limited but I'm a very keen learner. Thanks for the experiences. I'm interested to know if propane injection is an option that could accomplish a similar improvement in exhaust soot and unburned fuel oxides. I can live with the slowness, indeed knowing there are others (ty'all) makes it easier, even if some have squeezed out a few more ponies or simply managed to hold on to the ponies that came OEM. But the soot is something I've trained my mirror on. There may be a proper use and appreciation of this engine and many others like it i.e. the early 80's f-100 with a perkins 4-203 in South America is something I just learned about as I dream of a slightly larger truck. It is the number of people interested in 'using' the engine that made for the success of the site here because of the decisions by ford/mazda to make this configuration in the aftermath of the opec turmoil and embargos that followed. It seemed maybe we were headed in a 'global' direction for a while. Everyone is going to have a different outlook on the value of this drivetrain. Diesel is popular because it's tough an all, but also because it's efficient. It's unpopular in the sense that this technology is obsolete and has too much longevity for the way the automotive industry rolls. I'd rather we were less stuck on a made in America solution and joined the global automotive powering developments. If we can filter out a undertone to the thread - What is the proper thing for the engine, us, the roads, others etc.. Well, if the scarcity of these rigs means that they should be given every opportunity to stay out of the scrap-yard, the motivation for a consensus on the appropriateness of boosting of them could save them from becoming boat anchors. Maybe? But above all, it seems we're do it yourself-ers.
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Post by tempforce on Oct 30, 2014 14:31:23 GMT -5
i just wish that ford would of installed a beefier transmission or used the five speed, which seems to hold up better. when the body of my truck wears out / rust away. i plan on using the engine in a boat or use it to power a generator. either way, i know that this engine will out last me and who-ever gets the truck/engine when i no longer need it.
as far as the valves go, just make sure and adjust them as proscribed in the diesel owners supplement. i admit, i'm lax in that department. i do it every other year - 10,000 miles... or if they get too noisy....
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Post by 83rangerguy on Oct 30, 2014 15:07:07 GMT -5
as far as the valves go, just make sure and adjust them as proscribed in the diesel owners supplement. i admit, i'm lax in that department. i do it every other year - 10,000 miles... or if they get too noisy.... How much noise is "acceptable"? I've listened to lots of videos on youtube of 2.2 diesels and they all seem pretty noisy to me lol
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Post by gradyc on Oct 30, 2014 19:12:54 GMT -5
Most of the noise in the videos is the normal diesel fuel burning noise. Valve lash noise is hard to hear over the normal diesel running noise. If you can hear the valve lash they are very loose and definitely need adjusted.
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Post by widetrack212 on Oct 31, 2014 10:36:18 GMT -5
What are the specs to adjust the valves to? How much clearance is allowable?
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Post by 83rangerguy on Oct 31, 2014 10:55:37 GMT -5
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Post by tempforce on Oct 31, 2014 12:43:22 GMT -5
don't interpret the injectors for valve train noise... the valves make more of a clicking noise, where the injectors and ignition sound more like a clack...
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Post by widetrack212 on Nov 1, 2014 23:44:25 GMT -5
Thanks For the specs. Interesting link btw.
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Post by DieselDangerRanger on Nov 5, 2014 11:01:27 GMT -5
I've yet to lay eyes on the ford 5-speed. A beefier tranny would be awesome. Why, is there an adapter plate pattern out there?
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Post by tempforce on Nov 7, 2014 8:09:47 GMT -5
there was an adaptor to mount a c-6 transmission... used with an airport lift... the ford five speed, is the mazda five speed.. it was a option that most dealers never ordered. so very few rangers came with them... if you can find a mazda diesel five speed, it should bolt up... with only a minor driveshaft length issue...
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Post by DieselDangerRanger on Nov 16, 2014 9:14:06 GMT -5
I see. Might just have to look at the mazda'z around here. thanks tforce. Not sure an automatic would be good unless you were stopping and starting all the time. Are you repowering your f100? I wonder what powerplants are in these ups trucks and roll-up box cabs.
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Post by tempforce on Dec 21, 2014 21:41:22 GMT -5
The box trucks usually use the cummins 4bt. I'm installing a Lincoln mark 8 4.6 32 valve v8. Into the '56' f100. Leaving the factory fuel injection on it.
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Post by rangerrattler on Dec 1, 2015 17:11:48 GMT -5
Hey Guys, It has been a while since I've logged on here, but I'm back and running the Ranger with a new head and not losing any water. Woohoo! Now, I'm on to a bower boost quest. After reading this thread again, I am good with just looking for a very very mild boost to keep me from downshifting all the way to 2nd gear on my way home and back from work. Otherwise, this truck is a yard-tool for me and that's it. Also, I have the benefit of an extra engine lying around with a good crank and (probably) fuel pump and exhaust manifold. I borrowed the head from this engine and it seems to have fixed my water-loss issue from a couple years ago! It will at least provide me with pistons, crank and rods The cylinders 1,3 are pretty corroded but I'm told I would be amazed at how they can be honed and cleaned and the block would probably still be good. After reading history from Wayne, I'm taking the plunge on a TD 04-9 from Australia (bidding/offering max of 200.00 delivered, pretty cheap!)I found on Ebay and am going to try this..one question I have for you guys- is it possible to just hook up at the exit point of the exhaust manifold, rather than cutting one up and having it "closer" to the engine? I was told by an old timer or two that it really isn't going to matter how far downstream I have this thing set up, as I'm not going for "quick" power..just some power/efficiency period, especially on the hills. Can't I just run a "j" hook pipe near the exhaust and keep it accessible and then adjust some piping from the outlet on-back to my current exhaust system? (I can't seem to access Wayne's old pictures via the internet) Thanks! B
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