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Post by ranger05055 on Feb 3, 2016 6:08:23 GMT -5
Hi folks,
I'm guessing my water pump is on its way out, it looks like my truck is taking a piss once the engine gets up to temperature. I know I can send the pump out for rebuild, but had anyone tried to source a new one? I called a local Perkins dealer, who said they could help if I gave them the serial number off the block above the injection pump. I'm away from the truck right now, could someone share theirs so I can see if perkins still sells the pump? Thanks!
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Post by gradyc on Feb 3, 2016 13:49:12 GMT -5
Is your truck a Mazda or a ranger? The pumps are different. The mazda pump seems to not be available but not too long ago I was able to order one for my ranger from NAPA. The NAPA part number is WP 58337. They had to call the factory to get it but it wasn't a problem at the time.
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Post by ranger05055 on Feb 3, 2016 14:15:03 GMT -5
Is your truck a Mazda or a ranger? The pumps are different. The mazda pump seems to not be available but not too long ago I was able to order one for my ranger from NAPA. The NAPA part number is WP 58337. They had to call the factory to get it but it wasn't a problem at the time. It is a Ranger. I tried NAPA, they said I could send mine in for a rebuild, but they could not get a new one. Thanks for the reply though! |
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Post by gradyc on Feb 4, 2016 2:18:22 GMT -5
I don't think Perkins will be able to help because these engines are built by Mazda under license not by Perkins and is 134 C.I.D where the Perkins is 154 C.I.D. I have heard that Westerbeke used it for a marine application and I have seen 1 with a KIA valve cover on a gen set.
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Post by rustytruck on Feb 4, 2016 12:50:32 GMT -5
Is your truck a Mazda or a ranger? The pumps are different. The mazda pump seems to not be available but not too long ago I was able to order one for my ranger from NAPA. The NAPA part number is WP 58337. They had to call the factory to get it but it wasn't a problem at the time. It is a Ranger. I tried NAPA, they said I could send mine in for a rebuild, but they could not get a new one. Thanks for the reply though! I used this method when the pump went out on my b2200 because I couldn't find one anywhere, I used O'riley auto parts and it took a month and a half but only cost 60$ from what I remember perkins doesn't offer any external parts for either the ranger or b2200. |
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Post by ranger05055 on Feb 6, 2016 13:33:10 GMT -5
Stopped by the ford dealership, not hopeful. Gave me part number though, E3TZ-8501-E. I cannot find and of these, but found the ac delco cross reference # of 252-153, which are available from numerous folks. Looks like the prices vary from $50 to $150, and most optimistically, the fitment info matches. Can anyone verify this is the correct pump for my 1984 ranger? Also, any thoughts why Mazda would have a different pump? Seems like a pain from the manufacturing standpoint, I thought on the vacuum pump/ alternator was different on the engines.
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Post by gradyc on Feb 6, 2016 16:35:12 GMT -5
The Mazda pump is smaller than the ford and not nearly as heavy duty. The Mazda had a vacuum pump built onto the alternator and the ranger had a separate vacuum pump which is the same one used on the full sized ford trucks with the 6.9 and 7.3 engines.
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Post by ranger05055 on Feb 6, 2016 17:10:03 GMT -5
I ordered one, but it sounds like it wont be any help to you Mazda dudes. Is the casting of the block for the coolant galleys the same? I wonder if a ranger w/p would fit a Mazda and visa versa. Thanks for the help folks.
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Post by rustytruck on Feb 6, 2016 17:27:10 GMT -5
I ordered one, but it sounds like it wont be any help to you Mazda dudes. Is the casting of the block for the coolant galleys the same? I wonder if a ranger w/p would fit a Mazda and visa versa. Thanks for the help folks. I want to know this too! I wonder if the vac pump would swap over.. I would love to ditch my combo alternator for something that can actually generate power lol |
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Post by gradyc on Feb 6, 2016 21:18:36 GMT -5
They will both bolt up to the engine but the fan mounting height is different and the fan bolt pattern is different. The water pump pulleys won't interchange either. I changed all the pulleys and brackets to change the Mazda engine I found to work with the ford power steering and AC system but I kept the Mazda alternator and vacuum pump because I had trouble finding the ford vacuum pump mounting brackets. The Mazda crankshaft pulley is a double v grove pulley and the ford has a single v grove and a serpentine pulley in front of it.
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Post by ranger05055 on Feb 17, 2016 20:35:13 GMT -5
Ac delco pump could not be less correct. My buddy who is a mechanic said that ac delco only makes Chevy parts. Odd that there website lists the pump for my truck.
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Post by tempforce on Feb 22, 2016 5:58:03 GMT -5
your friend is wrong, ac delco makes all sorts of parts. one example is oil filters. you can find a ac delco filter for 90% of all vehicles made... ignition and electrical system parts for most brands.
heck we bought ac delco oil filters for our diesel generators on navy ships..
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